Ken Mattingly

That's correct. And EMERGENCY CABIN PRESSURE valve to BOTH.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

EMERGENCY CABIN PRESSURE to BOTH.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct; and the SUIT DEMAND REGs to BOTH.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

SUIT DEMAND REGs to BOTH.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. Okay, now we're going to panel 5: circuit breaker ECS TRANSDUCERs, PRESSURE GROUP 1 and 2, MAIN A and MAIN B. That's four circuit breakers, closed.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

ECS TRANSDUCERs, GROUP 1 and 2, MAIN A and MAIN B, four, to close.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. Okay, now. Circuit breaker ECS TRANSDUCER, TEMPERATURE, MAIN A and MAIN B, that's two of them, closed.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

CB ECS TRANSDUCER, TEMPERATURE, MAIN A and MAIN B, closed.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. On panel 4: PRIMARY ECS GLYCOL PUMPS, one, to AC 1.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Primary ECS GLYCOL PUMPS to 1, AC1.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. Okay, then we'll finish going back to the tunnel vent, and verify the LM/CM DELTA-P and make sure it's been holding pressure. And we'll come back again and rehash all of the hatch integrity check and tunnel vent procedures with you. The next thing I want to read off is the EI minus 1 plus 20. We'll go to panel 7: BMAG number 1 POWER to WARM UP.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

BMAG number 1 POWER to WARM UP.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. Then at EI minus 1 plus 10, we'll perform SCS powerup per checklist, page G/2-4.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Perform SCS powerup per G&C checklist, page 2-4.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. Okay, on panel 4: SUIT COMPRESSOR NUMBER 2 to AC1.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

SUIT COMPRESSOR 2 to IC1.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. SPACECRAFT CONTROL to SCS.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

SPACECRAFT CONTROL to SCS.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. And your MANUAL ATTITUDE switches, as you desire. We're coming up on jettison of the LM, so that's just like separation.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. And we'll do a GDC aline.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Perform a GDC aline.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. On panel 8: ROTATION CONTROL POWER, DIRECT, 1 and 2, MAIN A/MAIN B.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. These are circuit breakers, ROTATION CONTROL POWER, DIRECT, 1 and 2, MAIN A and MAIN B, closed.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, Jack. I was thinking switch. Let me verify that's a circuit breaker, too. I think we have to get both of them.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, there's those four circuit breakers over there, Ken. When you said panel 8, that's what I thought you were talking about. I don't think the circuit breakers are out right now, but why don't we just put—verify the circuit breakers and put the switches to MAIN A/MAIN B.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, that's correct, Jack. Okay, at EI minus 1 hour, we're going to be doing the LM jettison; so just prior to that, we want to do a P47.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, say at about 1 minute prior to LM jettison, huh?

Ken Mattingly

Yes, just something that's comfortable for you.

Ken Mattingly

All right, after we've? done that, we want to get panel 8, SEQUENTIAL, PYRO ARM, two of them, ON.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I get a GO from MSFN for this?

Ken Mattingly

Okay, John says we can watch it.

Ken Mattingly

All right; the next thing is CSM/LM FINAL SEP, two of them, ON, up.

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Jack Swigert (CMP)

CSM/LM FINAL SEP, two, ON.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. Now we're going back to panel 8, and it's SEQUENTIAL, PYRO ARM, two of them, to SAFE.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. SEQ PYRO ARM, two, to SAFE.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct, and go back to P00.

Ken Mattingly

All right. And now it's time to configure for single ring.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Configure for single ring RCS.

Ken Mattingly

That's right, and since you're still an hour from EI, I guess it wouldn't hurt to use MINIMUM IMPULSE or something like that rather than the DAP, at least not until you get closer down. We'll have the DAP loads for you later.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. And as soon as you've gotten yourself all set up with a good control mode, you want to maneuver to the entry attitude.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Maneuver to entry attitude per the pad.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. And we show EI minus 55, which really means when you get to the entry attitude, we have a sextant star check for you. And that will be on the pad.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Perform a sextant star check.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. And I want to remind you to park the optics at 90 degrees of shaft.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Say again why, Ken. I didn't understand that.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, this is just a precaution, Jack. If we park the optics with a 90-degree shaft angle, that will line up the slits so it gives you the best airflow over that part of the heat shield and avoids a hot spot. If you don't remember it, I don't think it makes much difference. It's just good procedure.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. And after you've got it parked wherever you want it, well, turn the OPTICS POWER OFF and stow the optics.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. OPTICS POWER, OFF; stow the optics.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, that's good, Okay. The next thing we'll do is to initialize the EMS and that's on entry checklist page 2-1, step number 2.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, perform EMS initialization per entry checklist page 2-1, step 2.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, that's correct. Now we're coming up on EI minus 45 minutes, and we'll give you an entry pad and a final state vector.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, at minus 45, entry pad and final state vector from MSFN.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. Now we're going to perform what we call the Moon check. Rather than go into detail, if you already know what we're doing, just say so; otherwise, I'll describe the use of the Moon-attitude set.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Maybe you better describe it.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, Jack. You remember everybody in the past has commented on seeing Moonset just a couple minutes prior to EI, and your horizon will probably be dark at the time that you get there; you're having an early morning entry; and coming in from the west, you'll still be looking at a dark horizon. So, just as a backup technique, just like you would track the horizon, we're going to give you an attitude which will be on the pad so that you can look directly at the Moon. This is an inertial attitude; it won't be changing, and you'll put the 36-degree window line on the Moon, and then just sit there and watch it. And just prior to EI, the Earth will come up and occult it, and you will then have a good horizon check. And I have some times, and I'll give you that later. And if you just look at this thing now, at that point you can set the GDC or whatever you desire. And you will have a known attitude reference. It's just like a horizon check.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, I maneuver to the Moon check attitude; at which time I put the 36 window line on the Moon, and just prior to EI, the Earth will occult the Moon.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. And that corresponds to the same inertial attitude that you'd have on the back of your entry card where it shows the horizon attitude several minutes prior to EI; it's the same thing.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes, that's that one at 17 minutes prior. Okay.

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Ken Mattingly

Okay, and we're just getting it in a little closer. Okay, the next item on the check—checklist here is an EI minus 40; we're going to panel 7, and it's BMAG NUMBER 2 POWER to WARM UP.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, panel 7: BMAG NUMBER 2 POWER to WARM UP.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. Now, I'd like to verify the SURGE TANK and REPRESS PACKAGES are ON.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Verify SURGE TANK and REPRESS PACKAGE are ON.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. On panel 5: circuit breaker ENVIRONMENTAL—CONTROL SYSTEM; WASTE WATER/URINE DUMP HEATER, two of them, closed.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Panel 5: CB ECS, WASTE H2O/URINE DUMP HEATERS, two, to close.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. SUIT COMPRESSOR number 2 to OFF.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

SUIT COMPRESSOR 2 to OFF.

Ken Mattingly

That's right, Jack, and what this—what we're planning to do in order to conserve power is we're going to run the suit compressor from an hour to this point at minus 40. And we'll be watching the PCO2; if that thing's working, we'll turn it off at the earliest time that we have a good cabin, and then we'll just leave it off. And in the event that the PCO2 gage isn't working properly or something like that, well, we'll just go ahead and run it for this time frame.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, that sounds good.

Ken Mattingly

All right. Now we're at EI minus 30. SEQUENTIAL, LOGIC, that's two of them, to ON, up.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

EI minus 30; SEQ, LOGIC, two, ON.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, in panel 7: the BMAG number 2 POWER to ON.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, we—you only gave that 10 minutes for the warmup, huh?

Ken Mattingly

All right, and FDAI POWER to BOTH.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. And we want to activate the primary evaporator.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, activate the primary evaporator. All this time, Ken, what've we been getting our cooling? Right now, I think we have the radiators at PULL TO BYPASS.

Ken Mattingly

That's correct. We started out that way, and we turned the glycol pumps on, and we're just circulating it internally. And we're counting on the command module being a heat sink; it's pretty cold soaked, and it looks like this is good enough. You got some relatively low heat loads —

Ken Mattingly

— and we'll keep watching the temps, and if we need it, why we'll start the evaporator early.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, that sounds good.

Ken Mattingly

Do you believe it's cold up there?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes, and we used to call the command module the bedroom and it's now the refrigerator.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, just don't call it the reefer. Okay. At about EI minus 19, we get back into the standard entry checklist on page 2-2, where it starts with P61.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, at EI minus 19, we get back into the entry checklist at page 2-2, where we start entering P61.

Ken Mattingly

Okay, Jack. Now that's the—those are the time-line notes I had for you. I hate to tell you this, but I also have a couple of corrections to make to the entry checklist. They aren't corrections, they just are pieces of the entry checklist which will correspond to what I've written—already read to you. And I'm ready to go on that whenever you are. And Vance tells me you can get into the descent water for drinking now.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

We can get into the descent water for drinking, huh?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Jim would like to know whether the descent water will be good until LM jettison?

Ken Mattingly

Okay, Jack. Looks like we're going to go on the ascent tanks at 128:30. And it looks like —

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, understand. We are going —