Jim Lovell (CDR)

Houston, Aquarius. Over

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Are the flowers in bloom in Houston?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

No, not yet. Still must be winter.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Suspicions confirmed.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes, I doubt if they will be blooming even Saturday, when you return.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Hey, Jim, we have some photo information to pass up to you. Discussed this briefly with Fred earlier. It's instructions or suggestions for which photos—which cameras and lenses to use during your service module photography. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. We have three cameras here, two of them to be used for picture taking from the LM, one to be used from the number 5 window of the CSM. First, I'll hit the LM cameras. And this camera that I mention now has first priority. It's considered the one to give you the best results. That's the 70-millimeter DC Reseau camera, Hasselblad, that is, with the 80-millimeter lens, from box A-13. Suggest fresh magazine of 3400 black-and-white film.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Suggest either magazine R or magazine S from A-13. Transfer all of this to the LM and recommend the following settings: LM/DC/80/BW 3400 (f:5.6 at a 250th).

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And that's all for that one.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Vance. Let me see if I have it here. For the LM, want to use the 70-millimeter DC Hasselblad 80-millimeter lens in A-13, using 3400 black-and-white film MAGs R or S. Prepare to take camera to the LM, and the setting would be the LM/DC/80/BW 3400 (f:5.6) at a 250th.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

That's correct. Okay. Next: the next camera—Stand by 1. I've got noise here. Okay. The next LM—The next camera for the LM will be the 16-millimeter, and these photos are considered to be priority 3. Okay. One, get the 16-millimeter DAC and powerpack from A-8. Get the 10-millimeter lens, and remove it—remove the 10-millimeter lens, and take the 18-millimeter lens from B-3 and attach it to the camera. And attach the power cable transfer to the LM, set frame rate at 12 frames per second, and the same data line that I gave you before reads this way this time. LM/DAC/18/CEX, battery (f:8 and 1/250th). Okay. Now looking at these two cameras in the LM, it's recommended that you use the 16-millimeter for the first 2-1/2 minutes and then switch to the 70-millimeter. That's partly because the frame's been—or the—They've been optimized for closer and longer range. Okay. Read back, please.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Vance. Essentially, what you wanted to use as far as the movie camera in the LM goes, is our lunar sequence camera which is attached to the powerpack. We use the 18-millimeter lens, set it at 12 frames per second … f:8 at 250th of a second.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Would you believe that we have a correction now to the last camera I gave you? Correct that 18-millimeter lens to 75-millimeter lens.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. The 18-millimeter to the 75-millimeter lens. Okay.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Right. Okay. Next for the command module pictures, it may be a little hard to see the service module from the command module, but if you can see it, it will be through window 5, people down here think. Recommend for that the CM 70-millimeter. These photos have priority 2. So this is 70-millimeter EL, with—which has the 80-millimeter attached, and this is all in B-3. Take off the 80-millimeter lens and attach the 250-millimeter lens. And the 250-millimeter lens can be found in U-4. Use CEX film from A-13. Ring sight from A-7, and these pictures will be f:8 at a 250th. And I think probably by now you probably all have—already have these cameras configured, and this may be redundant information, but here it is anyway. Over.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Vance. You're right. We do have cameras almost configured like you said. For the command module, you think that the EL with the 250 lens, CEX film, f:8 at a 250th is the best bet, and you're saying now that where you think you'll see it is out window 5? Is that it?

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. My procedure, now, after service module JETT is going to be to pitch up, in order to try to get the service module into the—to get the center window in view of the service module, which we are going to have somebody there—to photograph. Why do you think window 5 will be it?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Stand by on that one. This is a question of geometry, and I'll get right back.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jim, regarding window 5, I have a drawing here; and, when you're docked, you have approximately a 60-degree angle between the Z-axes of the two spacecraft. It appears that peering out window 5, you would be looking at the rendezvous radar on top of the LM which would, if you pitched, more or less give you a view of the service module. That is, if you pitched, so—from—and I think that this has been run by quite a few folks here; so, offhand, I can't see where any other window would be as good or perhaps even possible.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. I understand. Yes, you're right. When we look out window 5, we can see rendezvous radar, and we'll try—We'll try window 5.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. It presumes, though, that there has to be a pitch to be able to see it. You guys sound a lot more rested today.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Well, I just went back and sacked out for an hour or so and didn't get back up.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, Jim, Houston. We really are going to get those checklists up to you.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jim, it's time for readings on the battery charging again. Request the BAT A voltage and the charger amps. Over.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. Stand by, Vance.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. We have no more water in the potable tank. We tried to get some more out a few minutes ago, and there isn't any.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Understand you ran out of water in the CM potable tank.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jim, we—you were able to get those voltage—BAT A voltage and current readings?

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Oh, yes. Fred's—Fred's up there now.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. And we're ready to read you the first checklist installment. This will—What we're going to readup is going to be a LM time line, a CSM time line, and checklist changes to conform with these. And right now I have the first installment of the CSM time line ready to read up. Over.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Jack. I'm going to get—Vance, I'm going to get Jack on the line for that; and so stand by.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. And he'll need a lot of paper.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. Volts are 39.5; amps, 1.24. Stand by.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. I'm on and ready to copy.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Wait 1. We want to get one into the hands of FLIGHT and EECOM, and it'll take about a minute or 2. Sorry to wake you up for this, but take about a minute, and then we'll read it up to you.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. Go ahead.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Do you have any of that CM water—bagged water, left? Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Negative. I went up and tried to repressurize the surge tank and get another shot of water, and was able to repressurize the surge tank okay, but there was no water that came out of the water tank.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes. We understand that there isn't any more in the potable tank, but we understood that you had put some water from that tank into bags, and I wondered if any of the bags were left.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Ready to copy?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. Ready to copy.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Start at EI minus 6-1/2 hours. You're going to re—get LM pads and CSM pads, and I don't know if you want to copy them or not. This is something I can just read off to you. Over. Without you copying unless you especially want it.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. LM pad, SM jettison —

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Go ahead; read which ones we're going to get.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. I'll read them fast first here so you get a general idea. LM pad, service module JETT attitude, Moon viewing attitude, Sun viewing attitude, and LM JETT attitude. The CM pads are coarse aline angles for LM attitudes during Moon and Sun sightings, coarse aline angles for entry REFSMMAT, and CMC angles on entry REFSMMAT for LM JETT. Moon viewing, and entry. Okay. That—That's general pad information. If you want, I'll read it slowly so you can copy it all down; otherwise, I'll go ahead.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

I got—I was trying to copy it as you were reading it, Vance. The LM pads are service module jettison attitude, Moon viewing attitude, Sun viewing attitude, and LM jettison attitude. Is that correct?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

That's correct. Okay. I'll read the CM pads now, slowly. Coarse aline angles for LM attitudes during Moon and Sun sightings.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. The next coarse aline angles for entry REFSMMAT. Okay. The next, CMC angles on entry REFSMMAT for (1) LM JETT, (2) Moon viewing, (3) entry. Okay. I'll stand by until you read that back.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. The CSM pads will be coarse aline angles for LM attitudes during Moon and Sun sightings. Coarse aline angles for entry REFSMMAT. CMCCMC angles on entry REFSMMAT for (1) LM jettison, (2) Moon viewing, (3) entry.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Going to hold up 1. All the hordes of people that devised this procedure are going to be coming into the room in a minute, and they'd like to hold up until everybody can listen in.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. We're ready to go.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. We lost you there briefly while you were in an attitude where we couldn't receive you. Jack, we'd like to hold off for about 5 minutes. We have some more people coming in to listen to this, and it took a lot of people to devise this procedure, and a few people have been testing it out, so we'd like to have them all on hand while we give you the rest.

Deke Slayton

How's the temperature up there, Jack? You guys chopping wood to keep warm?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Deke, it's about 51, I think, or 50 in the LM, and it's about—I don't know—45 or little bit less in the command module.

Deke Slayton

Oh, it's a nice fall day, huh?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes, I tell you, we don't have to worry about chilldown.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. While we're waiting, do you have there also what I can expect ground to uplink me?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

We'll have that, Jack, but—Stand by for that.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jack, probably—probably the thing to do is to give you all of the checklist, and it will include things like this. Then we'll have a big question and answer session afterwards, if that's okay by you.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. That sounds good.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. While we're waiting, just for your information, the command module has been stowed per your checklist with the exception of the two Hasselblad cameras.

Deke Slayton

Roger. Got that, Jack.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

And the LM is pretty well stowed with the exception when we have yet to bring in the probe and the drogue.

Deke Slayton

Relative to your water situation, Jack, we're going to have a pretty good hack on the LM here in the next few hours, and we anticipate letting you fill your own tanks before we transfer over, so you should be in reasonably good shape there.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. We have a number of juice bags all out and ready to go, and we tried to get the water out of the command module about 20 minutes ago and found out that the command module's potable tank was empty. So we have no bags made up now, so we're dependent on LM water, PLSS water.

Deke Slayton

Roger. If you feel like trying the PLSS, that's all excess, and you might want to try that at any time. I'm sure it'll taste like PLSS but you might as well try it.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Deke. All the windows in the command module are heavily coated with water right now. So I don't know what kind of pictures we'll get out of them, but I'm going to try and clean them off and do the best I can with the 250-millimeter lens on the Hasselblad.

Deke Slayton

Roger. That's why we have the top priority stuff in the LM. We figure you've got a much better chance of getting it through there.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Are you ready to send it up, Vance?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jack, before we start reading the procedure, we'd like—We find that BAT A is topped off and in great shape. Like to switch over and top off BAT B some more. Give it 2 more hours of charging. Have about a seven- or eight-step procedure here to give you, if you want to copy that. We're switching before we start recording the entry procedures.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Stand by and let me get out my other checklist.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. Ready to copy.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Panel 3: switch BATTERY CHARGE to OFF. Panel 5; MAIN BUS TIE BAT A/C to BAT A/C; CB BATTERY CHARGER, BAT A CHARGE to open; CB BATTERY CHARGER, BAT B CHARGE, close. Next, panel 250; CB BAT B POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING to close. Panel 5; MAIN BUS TIE, BAT B/C, off. Panel 3; BATTERY CHARGE to B. Advise; well, stand by. Jack, advise that we have a backout procedure for this, but we'll read that up to you later, in about 2 hours. And, also, that this procedure is a DELTA to your—the first battery charging procedure that we gave you. In other words, it's a DELTA from where you are right now.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. This is the procedure for charging BAT Baker. Panel 3; BAT CHARGE, OFF; panel 5; MAIN BUS TIE, BAT A/C to A/C; CB BAT CHARGER, BAT A CHARGE, open; CB BAT CHARGER, BAT B CHARGE, close. Panel 250; CB BAT B POWER ENTRY and POSTLANDING, close. Panel 5; MAIN BUS TIE, BAT B/C, to OFF; Panel 3; BAT CHARGE to B. This is a DELTA for the first battery charging procedure; you'll give me the backout procedure in a couple hours.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I'll put it in work right now, then come back and stand by to copy the rest of—well, I—not the rest—everything.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

You'd never believe how much this procedure's been massaged in the last day.

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Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. I put BAT Baker on charge; I don't think it quite had stabilized. It was reading 1.1 amps, 39.6 volts when I left up there.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I guess now is as good a time to start as any.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. You're kind of weak, but readable.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jack, we're going to need readings on the BAT volt and charger amps about every 10 or 15 minutes for a while, so is there somebody else that can be reading them out while you're copying? Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes. Jim will take a run up there. Fred-o is sleeping right now. We're trying to get some sleep here, and Jim'll run up and take a look at voltage and current whenever you call.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Vance, we've got to realize that we've got to establish a work-rest cycle up here, so we just can't wait around here to just read procedures all the time up to the burn. We've got to get them up here, look at them, and then we've got to get the people to sleep. So take that into consideration when you get ready to send up the pads.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

I know, Jim. We're very conscious of that. We—we should be ready to go in about 5 minutes. That's all I can say. Stand by.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. We're ready to go.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. We need a—Sorry (laughter). We need a readout. Volts and amps.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, might as well bring the COMM up to a higher fidelity for this long period of checklist reading. That requires, panel 16: CB PRIMARY S-BAND POWER AMP, closed.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, PRIMARY S-BAND POWER AMP closed now. How do you read?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. And next step, panel 12: S-BAND FUNCTION to VOICE and RANGING FUNCTION to RANGING.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. The S-BAND FUNCTION is at VOICE and the RANGING switch was at RANGING.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. That makes it so we can hear you better, Jack.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Can we—Since the first part of it, you're just going to read and I'm going to copy and we're going to have a question and answer period later, can we get started?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Procedure's coming back in again. Multicopies for distribution. And Ken's back. He's a local expert on this now, so we'll turn you over to him and he'll read it off.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Stand by. I'll give you volts and amps. Okay. The voltage is 39.1; amps, 1.75.

Ken Mattingly

Hello, Aquarius; Houston. How do you read?

Ken Mattingly

Okay. Let me take it from the top here. Just—there might be some overlap, but to make sure we're all on the same signal. We're starting off with a set of time line procedures that are going to give us—end up with the normal entry checklist. There will be some checklist changes into the book, but the bulk of what I have for you is the time line stuff. And it starts at 6 hours and 30 minutes prior to EI and assumes that we're getting LM power to MAIN B in the command module. I think you already have the numbers for the LM pads and the command module pads; I mean the types of pads we'll be giving you. And if you have a question on what they'll be doing or what they're for, I can go over those now or when we get through.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Yes, I'll make a little note there, and we'll discuss it when we get everything copied, huh?

Ken Mattingly

All right. And the first item, then, after you get ready to start this checklist, is to install lithium hydroxide canisters and to stow ORDEAL. On panel 8, we want to turn the FLOODLIGHTS to FIXED.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Wait a minute. You're going too fast, here.

Ken Mattingly

Okay. I'll tell you. I'll go line at a time and wait for your verification before I go on to the next one. I have panel 8, FLOODLIGHTS, FIXED,

Ken Mattingly

Okay. Install LiOH canisters, stow ORDEAL, FLOODLIGHTS, FIXED.