Jim Lovell (CDR)

This is the LM to command module transfer, and this is the Delta from the launch stowage. Number 1: DSEA …; number 2: LM flight data file in R-1, R-2, R-3; three PPKs in A-8 … -

Jim Lovell (CDR)

… A-8; and used LM fecal bags in R-9.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, that's affirm, Jim. We had a lot of noise, and we didn't get the middle part, but I think that's fairly—should be fairly clear to you, and don't bother with the readback of that that we missed, unless you have any doubts. And then I'll, if you're ready to copy, I'll give you the second list.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. This is CM to LM equipment transfer. Cabin fan filter and bag, and that, in the LM, should go in the ISA. Okay, next: decontamination bags, except for the ones used to wrap camera, should go in the ISA.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Two LCGs, if you don't have them on already, to the IS—ISA. I realize you wouldn't have them on, because you're cold enough already.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, and finally, four LiOH cans, the ones used in the LM, and those can go in the jettison bag in the LM. Okay, a couple of notes. After loading the ISA, recommend secure it to the righthand restraint system.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And secure the jettison bag to the PLSS on the floor. And that's all.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, Vance. This is command module to LM: cabin fan filter and bag in the ISA; decontamination bags, except for the ones we use for the TV camera, in the ISA; two LCGs in the ISA; four LOiH [sic] cans in the JETT bag; and we'll secure the ISA on the right-hand side—on the right-hand restraint system, and we'll secure the JETT bags to the PLSS on the floor.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jim, would you give us PCM to HI bit rate. We think maybe we might be able to lock up on your high bit rate now. Over.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jim. We're getting it intermittently. We think we might get it steady and improve circuit margins if you would, in addition, on panel 16, open the PRIMARY POWER AMPL circuit breaker, and I'll give you next step in a minute.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay. PRIMARY POWER AMPL is opened.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. And on panel 12, POWER AMPL to PRIMARY.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

POWER AMPL to PRIMARY.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Or rather, Houston. Jim, it looks like we got a lockon, which is going to improve our data flow here. Only thing is, we'll probably lose data and probably voice, too, during a portion of each roll. So you might expect that. The other thing is, if anyone has on any BIOMED, would you switch your switch to—your BIOMED switch to that position.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Understand the first, Vance, and no one has on any BIOMED —

Jim Lovell (CDR)

— Fred and Jack are maneuvering things around right now, and mine is long since departed the scene.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Vance, you might be interested—the way we're—the way we got this thing arranged, we have one helmet attached to the COMM lines attached to the LM hoses, and the guy that's got the duty wears the helmet, so the other people are free to maneuver.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Right. That's understandable. One guy's on the leash, huh?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jim, when you get finished moving your stowage around and it's convenient, we'd like to terminate the battery charge for a little while to bring up the CM TM so we can take a look at the temperatures again, like we did yesterday. Advise that right now on your batteries, you have 111 amp-hours; and, eventually, we hope to have them up—peaked up to about 116. One other point, we—we can either read that procedure up again which involves cranking up the telemetry, or, if Jack still has it, we can use his notes and—but I have one or two changes to—to make on them. Over.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Okay, understand that you'll want us to terminate battery charge for a while, and crank up the CM TM to read out temperatures. And you have a few changes to Jack's checklist, and I'll turn the COMM over here to Jack shortly, as soon as he's finished, and we'll get along with it.

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Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, we'll be standing by for—there's no hurry on it.

Jim Lovell (CDR)

Just out of curiosity, Vance, what's our distance and velocity now?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Hey, stand by 1. You're speeding up, I think.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jim, we have you 101 000 miles out, and your velocity is 5848. Starting to speed up.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. Jim said that you want to terminate battery charge on battery A.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

That's affirm, Jack. Request to—Before you terminate it, get the usual readout on voltage and current; and we'd also like a time of termination, and understand you have the termination procedures. Is that affirm?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. That's affirm. Stand by. Let me just make sure I've got everything here before I go off on a tangent.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack, and your battery-charge termination procedure remains unchanged, but when we go to power up the CM and look at your TM, we have a couple of additional steps.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Vance, I do have the procedure for stopping the battery charge. And do you want me to copy this procedure now, or do you want me to come back and give you the volt, amps, and time and—after I complete this termination?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Just—just give us the volts and amps just before you start the termination of the procedure, and understand you say you have the charge—the procedure for taking the charge off. Is that affirm?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. And just give us a hack on the time —

Jack Swigert (CMP)

And you want to—you want to review it at all?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Negative. Unless you want me to. I'll tell you what; I could run through it very quickly just to verify that we're getting started off on the correct path here.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes. Okay, the first four or five things that I have is panel BAT CHARGE to OFF on panel 3; AC INVERTER 2, OFF; panel 5: MAIN BUS TIE, BAT A/C ON; panel 250: CB BAT A POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING, open; panel 275: INVERTER POWER 2, MAIN B, open; and then, the—just to go ahead and reverse the position of the switches and circuit breakers that I started out with, and these don't have to be in reverse order. Is that Charlie?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger, that's—that's Charlie. Have at it.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, we'll get a volts and amps right now.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. The volts and amps: 39.4; amps, 1.25.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. We copy that. Incidentally —

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. We're going up to termin—Go ahead, Vance.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Never mind, Jack. I'll bring this up later when you've finished the procedure.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I'm going off the air; I'll put Fred-o on. I'm going to stop the battery charge.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Now, how do you read, Vance?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Hey, loud and clear, Fred. Understand you've been doing some spring housecleaning, moving stowage around up there.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Boy, you wouldn't believe this LM right now; it's nothing but bags from floor to ceiling.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Hey, that brings up a question. We were wondering where you guys plan to stow the probe and drogue? It occurred to us that one possibility was to stow it in the LM, down about where the LMP normally stands, underneath the IS—ISAer. Perhaps you have a better idea. Over.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Yes, I do, Vance. … would go in the LM, but I thought maybe we ought to stow it where the CDR stands. How's that?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. I can tell that you're just getting—getting that one over because Jim just got off the loop.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Yes, he's sleeping. No, that's—that's actually where we normally had been stowing it for normal LM JETTs.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, and—Hey, we just—we'll record that, and figure that you'll stow the probe and drogue over in the—where the CDR stands. We have a—a change to this—equipment transfer list that I just read up to Jim. Why don't you make a note of this one item? Forget about the LM

Fred Haise (LMP)

Stand by; stand by 1.

Fred Haise (LMP)

I think Jack hauled off the piece of paper with that—all that on it. Why don't you hold it until Jack gets done doing the battery charge?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, Fred, request PCM on LO bit rate, now.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. And there was one piece of flight data that we needed that we didn't bring along this time.

Fred Haise (LMP)

That's a big book with a lot of just plain old blank pages in it.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes, when you—when you get off nominal, why you just need scratch paper, don't you?

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay, Vance. I got the stowage list now.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, I gave you two lists —

Fred Haise (LMP)

And Jack's got—and Jack said he's completed—the—secured the battery charge now.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, and we're recording the time that that was complete. You have two lists there, one is LM to CM equipment transfer and the second list is the reverse. Request you scratch the last item on the first list, which is returning used bags to the CM.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. We didn't have any of those, so that didn't pose any problem anyway.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. Aquarius is back on.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack. Understand you completed securing the battery charge. Now if you are ready to copy, Jack, I would like to give you the two changes that we have to the powerup for the CM procedure. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. You say you have some changes in the procedures that I used before to get telemetry and to check out the CSM system?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes, that's correct, Jack; they're pretty simple. About halfway through the procedure, we have a step on panel 3, which is POWER AMPL, HIGH; we'd like to change that to POWER AMPL, LOW.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Copy. POWER AMPL, LOW.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And the next change, Jack, is panel 275. Scratch the step “CB MAIN B, BAT B, close—BAT BUS B, close.”

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. You want to delete the step “CB MAIN B, BAT BUS B, close.”

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. As you know, we're going to do this on LM power, so this reflects that.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay, and have at it. We—we'd like to have the TM up for about 5 or 10 minutes to look at the data from the CM; look at your temperatures, et cetera. And after that, we'll go back to charging the battery again, and the charge will probably go until around GET 126.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Do you want the same readouts from me that I gave you before?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

That's affirmative, Jack. And just to make sure that there is no mistaking the procedure, it starts out for the backout part: panel 3, POWER AMPL, OFF; TRANSPONDER, OFF; AC INVERTER 2, OFF; then goes to panel 250, et cetera.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

That's—that's the way I read it.

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Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay; going back up into the refrigerator.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Hey, I thought it was the bedroom.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Well, it's got a new name now, because it is about 30 degrees cooler.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. Returning to the deep freeze —

Jack Swigert (CMP)

— Hey, Vance. One thing that I wanted to ask you—is on the stowage list where you have us putting the black-and-white TV camera on top of A-7 in an A … decontamination bag, I was wondering if it would be possible or if you—there would be any problem in putting it into B-6 along with the two 70-millimeter Hasselblad cameras?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Jack, I don't think there'll be any problem, if you can get it in, but let us get—work that and get back with you. Okay?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

All right. I was just thinking. I'm trying to get as much weight as possible down there in that LEB. We have no SRCs and then our waste tank is—you know—rather depleted. I think it's about down to 40 percent or so. So I'm trying to get as much L over D as I can, and any heavy items we can get down there, I'd be greatly appreciative of you bringing it to our attention.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. We copy that, and we owe you an answer on your last question.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. And I'm in work, going to give you some telemetry.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. We're receiving CSM data now.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Fred, we just lost data on Aquar—on Jack. Would you have him select best OMNI, please?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Fred, we have enough data; recommend that Jack take off the TM and power back down again, using his backout procedure. Just let us know when he does it.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, after that, we'll start the battery charge, and we'll have to know when he starts that.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. He's starting to back out now. Just out of curiosity, what—did you all get a readout on what the cabin temp was up there?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes, we're getting 45 to 46 degrees.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Now you see why we call it the refrigerator.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Yes, it's kind of a cold winter day up there, isn't it? Is it snowing in the command module yet?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Is it snowing in there yet?

Fred Haise (LMP)

Oh, snowing. No—no, not quite. The windows are in pretty bad shape, and I guess the service module—we'll be trying to shoot out of the LM window, because every window in the command module is just covered with water droplets. It's going to take a lot of scrubbing to get those cleared off.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. Understand. Pete says to tell you that you'll have some time on the beach in Samoa to thaw out after this cold experience.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Hey, that sounds great.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Vance, have you all thought about what cameras you wanted to use? Right now, we've got configured a Hasselblad with a 250, and I've got the lunar-surface number 1 Hasselblad, and I've got the lunar surface sequence camera, also, rigged and ready to go. Did you have any other druthers about the …

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

You are referring to the photography of the service module, is that right?

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

We have some procedures in work, and I've seen them, Fred. I think pretty soon we'll be shooting them up to you to specify which cameras and settings. But that—that sounds pretty close.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay, you might let them know that, if they hadn't thought of it, that we got this lunar-surface sequence camera on board which has its own battery pack setup, and to shoot quite a few pictures with, and that could also be used for this.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. I know we are planning to use that camera, among others.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay, Houston; Aquarius. Jack has backed out of powering up the CM, and now he's proceeding to restart battery charge on BAT A.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Okay. Real good, Fred. We copy.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. And we are charging battery A now.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

Roger. Charging battery A, Fred.

Vance Brand (CAPCOM)

And, Fred, request now first reading of voltage—BAT A voltage and charger current. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Vance. I can give it to you. I read it right after I started it. BAT A voltage was 39.4 and the current had jumped up to 1.4.