Fred Haise (LMP)

And, Joe, do you have the … out for the …?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

I'm not sure I copied that, Fred. If you asked me whether I had that powerup procedure, I don't have it for you, yet. Over.

Fred Haise (LMP)

No. The question was, do you have a … from the Moon burn.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Still didn't understand, Fred. I'm sorry.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. We'll be able to get better COMM.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Fred, Houston. You want to try it, now?

Fred Haise (LMP)

How do you read, Houston?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's pretty good, Fred.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. Two things: first of all, we noticed a …

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Gol darn it. Just as you started talking, it got noisy again, Fred; try it again.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Try it now, loud and slow.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. Jack had a question on how far out from the Moon are we now?

Fred Haise (LMP)

From the Moon we are now?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Oh. Our little plot shows you just touching the 180-thousand-mile line. So you're about 40 K out from the Moon.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. Okay. And the other thing is, we've noticed some fresh new particles floating around outside, so possibly the service module is starting to vent a little bit again.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Copy that, Fred. On the O2 flow thing, we clearly saw the DEMAND REGULATOR go to OFF and back to CABIN. TELMU thinks that it's no big thing that you've seen a little change in flow due to the different resistance we've got in the circuit.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Fred. Recommend you go to OFF on the BIOMED switch. We never did get any BIOMED and it might clear up the COMM a little bit.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. How you read now?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Fred. That might be a little better.

Fred Haise (LMP)

We're on the 180—K line, right now.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

… It's 550 over there.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. It's … there.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Just split the difference.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay. I got a copy of the … K …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

That midcourse should be interesting. You know, the mode we're going to do it in.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Manual AGSDPS burn. We're controlling … TTCA attitude. …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

We can't help them too much. Actually it isn't bad … but … … goddamned unfortunate. In part, I get a feeling … now when I get … Just before … goes to zero in 1 second I'm going to pull them out …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Another burn that's never been done.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Go to the—Go to the technique for a lash and … it's the burn technique.

Fred Haise (LMP)

I'm sure they got something written out, maybe …

Fred Haise (LMP)

Well, hell, Jack. All you—you don't use a very good one … Just if you'll go … at your attitude reference for … and the g-meter backup. Because, really, you can almost … The command module and your odds are 60 to 40 that you're going to hit Earth blunt-end first, without any reference.

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Jack Swigert (CMP)

… I didn't realize that. That proves you've got a little bit above 50-percent odds that you're going to enter blunt end, and -

Fred Haise (LMP)

We made an entry like that in Apollo 8 in a … with Houston, ol' Buzz went and turned on the command module heaters and left them on. The activators, they went, “Shooo!” both tanks; we had no gas. Just had a real slow rate … We actually went out in the console and started debriefing, but left it running and watched it; and the son of a bitch did a hop-skipout, a hopout, underneath …, but not much, and then we did a long hop … but—The second reentry, also, it did one … both times. It lucked out twice and made a real peculiar … They went to zero g …

Fred Haise (LMP)

Yes, we did, Jack. …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

… But we're in this wobble.

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Fred Haise (LMP)

… pass … then it'll come back down.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Hey, Aquarius; Houston. How do you read me?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Okay. Go ahead.

Fred Haise (LMP)

Okay, Joe. It—Our wobble in this PTC has picked up where the Moon is running by pretty high in the window and the Earth pretty low; so I expect—On the side where the Moon's present, we're having a little bit of trouble with the COMM … breakout there in a couple of places.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Roger that, Fred.

Fred Haise (LMP)

… pressure gage as far as the noise … get the thing from the AFT. …

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. I'm all set to copy that procedure for powering up the command module from the LM, whenever you want to give it to me. When did you, I guess you want to put battery A out of the CHARGE, huh?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Jack, we're not certain when the best time is to implement this procedure, and what we want to do at this time is read it up to you, so you'll have it and understand it and we'll—We'll be able to do it quickly when the time comes. And I don't have it for you quite yet. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

(Laughter) Okay. All right. I'll be standing by to copy it whenever you get it.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Aquarius, Houston. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Joe, I got to switch antennas here. Okay, Joe, I read you on the FORWARD antenna.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jack, I have the procedure now to read up to you. Before I do, I want to mention something that will be of interest to Fred. We are looking at the SHe tank pressure rise and we expect it to blow. We don't know exactly what time it will go, somewhere around 105 hours or perhaps later than that. We've got plenty of blowdown capability. We just thought you ought to be informed.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Stand by. I'll tell him, now.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Fred, they said they're looking at the SHe tank pressure rise, and they expect it to blow somewhere around 105 hours … Okay. Fred thought they did. …

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Real fine. Are you ready for the procedure, now, Jack?

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Yes. Joe, how long is it? Is it a big long one, or a short one, or a medium sized … about how many pages?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

It's about—I'd say 15 to 20 steps, Jack. Some of it is LM stuff, and the rest of it is in CSM.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. I got a fresh page here, and I'm ready to copy.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. I'll give you the LM steps first. They have to be done first, and the first step is on panels 11 and 16, circuit breakers ASCENT CA, ASC ECA, two to close.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Panels 11 and 16 CBs ASCENT ECA to closed.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. Next step: panels 11 and 16 CB ASCENT ECA CONTROL, two, to close. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. On 11 and 16 CBs ASCENT ECA CONTROLs to close.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. That's correct. The next step is BAT 5 and 6 NORMAL FEED to high; those are switches.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. BATs 5 and 6 NORMAL FEED, ON.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's correct. Next step: BATs 1 and 3 to OFF slash RESET. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

BATs 1 and 3 to OFF slash RESET.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's correct. Next step: wait 30 minutes for preconditioning.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. That's wait 30 minutes for preconditioning.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's correct, and the last LM step for now is BATs 2 and 4 to OFF/RESET.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. BATs 2 and 4 to OFF/RESET.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's correct. Now we'll go to the CSM, and the first step there is connect LM/CSM umbilical. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. Connect LM/CSM umbilical.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. The next step, on panel 5, CB LM POWER-1 MAIN B and LM POWER-2 MAIN B, both, closed. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. On panel 5, CB LM POWER-1 MAIN B and 2 MAIN B, both, closed.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's correct. On panel 5, CB EPS SENSOR SIGNAL MAIN B to close. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

EPS SENSOR SIGNAL MAIN B closed on panel 5.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's correct. Next step, panel 250: CB BAT C POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING; closed. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. On panel 250: CB BAT B POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING, closed.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's Charlie. Verify MAIN BUS voltage; then, LM POWER switch on panel 2 to CSM. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. That's verify the MAIN BUS voltage, and switch LM POWER to CSM.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

Okay. That's correct. Then go back to 275, CB MAIN B BAT BUS B to open. Hey, Jack, that's the step I skipped for you, I'm afraid. Before verifying MAIN BUS voltage, you have to, on panel 275, close CB MAIN B BAT BUS B. Over.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay, Joe. How are you reading on the AFT OMNI.

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

You're okay now. Go ahead.

Jack Swigert (CMP)

Okay. After putting the BATTERY B POWER ENTRY/POSTLANDING on, then I want to push the—on panel 275 MAIN B to BAT BUS B in, huh?

Joe Kerwin (CAPCOM)

That's right. Then you go to verify MAIN BUS voltage, LM POWER to CSM, and then, on panel 275, circuit breaker MAIN B BAT BUS B to open. Over.